Wednesday, November 11, 2009

Discipline - Our Way

This post is inspired by several of you, who asked me to write about how we discipline our children. Thanks for your input! Again, I must stress that I am not an expert. I offer you this information as a guide, to give you ideas. Use what works for you, and discard the rest.

First, I want to confess that I am, in fact, a yeller. I believe this tendency to be genetic, as I grew up in a family of bellowers. I'm not proud of this. I wish that I had more patience, and that I never raised my voice to my children, but I do. This is an issue that I pray about, and seek God's help to correct.

While I might yell, I do not physically discipline my children. Oh sure, I might grab Cakes by the arm and haul her into time-out when she's being especially defiant, but we do not spank or hit our children. We have three reasons for this:

1) On the very rare past occasions when we did spank, we found that it taught the children absolutely nothing.

2) We want our children to always feel comfortable coming to us with problems, even if they're a result of mistakes or bad behavior. They won't do this if they fear us.

3) We believe that hitting in anger just teaches kids that violence is a solution to problems.

We also do not discipline our children with methods that I believe to be cruel, such as withholding meals, or long periods of isolation from family. Furthermore, name-calling/swearing of any kind in our house is strictly forbidden. I absolutely cringe when I hear parents call their kids horrible names. Once, I heard a man call his son a "stupid little s**t" in Target, and my heart broke for that poor child.

That said, we do expect that our children will respect and obey us. We have no tolerance for back talk/sarcasm, poor attitude, or defiance. We employ several techniques to deal with this type of misbehavior:

Time-out. For young children, this works well as long as it's handled correctly. The "naughty spot," as we call it, should be in an area that is isolated from the rest of the house, but not in the child's room! The key is to make the time-out as boring as possible. When Cakes needs time-out, we park her in our front hallway, facing the wall, for 3 minutes (1 minute for each year of age - we use an egg timer for accuracy). If she gets up, we say nothing to her, and calmly return her to her spot. Then we add more time to the timer. She must stay there until she has completed 3 consecutive minutes in time-out. When we first adopted this technique, she got up countless times, and then got mad when she realized that we weren't going to give in. Now she just sits.

Removal of favorite things. This works well with both girls. For example, if we tell Bee to do something, and she argues, we'll give her a warning. If she continues to protest, my husband says nothing, but he walks into her room and finds something that he knows is important to her (such as her American Girl doll), and puts it up on top of the china cabinet. If she continues to protest, he takes more things until she gets the picture and does as she's told without complaint. She must earn the items back through good behavior.

Removal of privileges. Once, at her American Girl Club, Bee had a snotty, disrespectful attitude toward me (she was trying to look cool in front of the older girls). My husband told her that if she couldn't be respectful of her Mom while with her friends, she wouldn't be going to American Girl Club. True to his word, she wasn't allowed to go the following month. We've never had an attitude problem at AG Club since.

Removal from situations. We use this method for Cakes when she's being naughty in public, and fails to heed our warning. I can't tell you how many restaurants, malls, grocery stores, libraries, etc. Cakes has been removed from. My husband takes her out to the van, and makes her sit, while she screams and protests because she's being excluded. Now, at age 3, she has learned that sitting in the van is really boring, especially when her Sissie gets to play/shop/look at books. We usually just have to warn, "Do we need to take you outside?" and she shapes up.

Addition of chores. My husband always says that children will obey when the price for disobedience is more than they're willing to pay. He is a master at "adding to the sentence." For example, if we tell Bee to clean her room, and she argues/protests/complains, he will say, "Fine. Now you can clean the toy room too." If she continues to protest, he'll say, "Now you can clean up the living room too. Do you have anything else to say?" She usually doesn't.

The key to success with all of these techniques is consistency and follow-through. Your kids need to know that you mean what you say, and you're not going to back down. If you're always making empty threats, but you don't follow through, or you discipline them for a certain behavior one time, and let them get away with it the next time, they're not going to take you seriously anymore. Even if you're tired and weary, you must be strong and follow through! It's just like with sleep-training - when your child realizes that you're not going to give in, they get the picture pretty quickly.

When we see our children do the right thing, we make a real effort to praise and commend them. We believe that if you're always punishing for bad behavior, and you never take the time to reinforce good behavior, children will start to feel discouraged and defeated. Children naturally seek parental approval, and if you give them the incentive to do well, they will strive to succeed.

I also want to stress that after our children are disciplined, when they right their wrongs and apologize, we hug them and tell them we forgive them quickly and emphatically. Then, we move on. We do not give the silent treatment, or continue to act angry (in look, word, or deed), or shame them, or harp on the same issue over and over. If they apologize sincerely, and take measures to fix their mistakes, they are forgiven. Period.

Our attitude is this - if our Heavenly Father can forgive us, and wipe our slates clean when we admit our sin and ask for His saving grace, well...we can certainly forgive our own children, can't we?

What works for you? Please share your suggestions in the comments.

25 comments:

Amy said...

Its good to know that your a yeller! I am too and I have treat so hard not to be but sometimes you just can't help it!

Allie Z said...

Hey look at that, ending with a question!! :) And here I am, popping in for comment love!

Yes! We can certainly forgive our own kiddos as He forgave us. Amazing!

I love the 'Naughty corner' name. We have a corner in our family room. We usually require 5 year old Haileigh to hold her hands on her head or flat on the wall. It keeps her focused. We also would use 1 minute for each year of age.

Allie

Allie Z said...

PS- I love the new look! It's super sweet.

Cop Mama said...

Thanks for your tips. We do use the time out method, but I had not thought of doing the other things you mentioned.

I'm sure one or the other of my boys will give me a reason to try them out soon :-)

michelle said...

Great post!

Stacey said...

Thank you so much for being a yeller too, lol. I hate that i am but like you, i grew up in a family of yellers and as much as i try to control it, i cant seem to stop! You have no idea how isolated i felt about this because i feel like i am the only person in my group of friends who does this... i probably am not but no one i know has ever admitted to it. Great post!

autumnesf said...

I have to confess to being a yeller also. I think you are right about it being genetic!

All three of our kids are so different that the same things have never worked twice for us. And some kids are easy to figure and other are near impossible. So your advice to do what works is spot on.

Kim said...

I wanted to share an incredible resource we found last year that is now permanently stationed on the fridge. It's called Wise Words for Moms. It's a couple pages of different discipline issues and each is listed with questions you can ask to get your child to realize what they did wrong (the root issue). Each issue also has multiple Bible verses beside it to show why it's wrong and that this isn't just something Mom and Dad are making up. Since we wanted to approach discipline from a Biblical standpoint, but are very human and can't remember every verse that corresponds to every action, this gets a lot of use around here. It's written by Ginger Plowman.

Mary said...

Love this post! We're just starting to need to discipline more and I, like you, don't care to spank either. Thanks for the tips!!

mquist said...

Heather,

Have you ever read, or heard of, John Rosemond? In my MOPS group several of the women at my table just LOVE his parenting books and even have a weekly book club. Since my daughter is only 8 months old I am trying to learn the tricks of the trade wherever I can. I was just wondering what your opinion is of him, if you have heard anything. I know that he is a Christian author and does not believe in all of the psychobabble even though he is a psychologist.

Also, with the holidays coming up I was wondering how you keep your family so grounded and not let them get caught up in the whole presents and commercialism of the holiday. This will be our first Christmas as parents and I am going to try my hardest to not make it about the presents and me, me, me. As I know how I was when I was a child.

Thanks,
Megan

Melissa said...

I could have written this post - it's pretty much exactly what we do. One thing I haven't thought of doing is adding on additional chores, what a fabulous idea! The time out works well for the little ones, and I've found that "grounding" from the television/computer is a good punishment as well for major infractions.

Karen said...

Thank you Heather. I too believe consistency is the key. At what age did you start the time out with your girls?

Heather said...

Megan, I've not heard of John Rosemond. I might do some internet research and see what I can learn about him.

If it's OK with you, I'll write a separate post about the holidays, since they're rapidly approaching.

Heather said...

Karen, we started around 18 months. Before that, the girls didn't seem to really understand what we were doing.

Heidi said...

Thank you for your post! The ideas you spelled out will really help me out. I'm definitely in on the yelling camp, coming by it honestly, but I really want to try to do different, if I can. I have a question similar to one of the earlier ones. How do you start disciplining really young children? My son is 15 months and he is doing things that he knows that Mama or Daddy don't want him to do. And he has also gotten into the bad habit of screaming for what he wants. Right now, I'm just trying to figure out where and how to start. If you know something that could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. Thank you!

bpokrandt said...

Great post, Heather. I pretty much do the same thing in my home. It is a nice "sanity check" for me. I tend to second guess my parenting more than anything else.

Michelle said...

Thanks for being real. I have alos heard of a discupline chart (similar to the one mentioned above) where the "infraction" is listed, a Bible verse and whatever punishment you choose. This is SO helpful when you are angry and need some perspective, plus the kiddos know what discipline will be dealt. Love the new look, too!

Amy said...

Thanks for the tips! I have nothing to add since my son is only 9 months old and we're just working on learning the word "no".

Kimberly said...

Hello Heather - Thanks for another great post. My children are much older now: 13, 11 and 9, but I must say that "adding chores" still works as well as the removal of privileges and/or favorite items. Additionally, its one thing to get mad and yell (we are all only human), but its another to be mean or condescending and/or "mouth off" in some way. The more consistent you are now will not completely prevent discipline/behavior problems in the future, but the problems will be significantly reduced. Your children will also be far more respectful of you and others - even in adolescence!
I do want to pass along one tid-bit on the sleep-training. I had a terrible sleeper - WAY WORSE than Cakes, if you can believe. We tried *everything* and I do mean EVERYTHING. NOTHING worked! I was honest with the pediatrician that my daughter was a terrible sleeper and he never forgot it. In a real moment of truth, I bit the pediatrician's head off once when he was giving me a hard time about her sleeping and I said, "I've got two kids who sleep just fine. Its not me, its her!" This probably contributed to his remembering her sleep problems. ;-) As it turns out, she had TWO sleep disorders! Due to a lack of insurance and the "pre-existing condition" clause, she was almost NINE before we completely resolved her sleep issues. I just want to send a word to parents out there who might feel its a battle of wills when, in fact, there might be something more going on.
I hope the girls are completely recovered and you and your DH are well. Love the changes to the website, Kim

Amy said...

In your Holiday post that I'm looking forward to reading by the way can you give some good tips on books that I can read to my 2 year old (she's advanced)that will explain about Christmas with out the Santa stuff in it. Thanks!

Kris said...

I have grabbed your button. So glad I found your blog.

momstheword said...

After a discipline we gave hugs and "I love you's" too. I knew a gal who gave affirmation afterwards too, although her parents felt it was wrong of her to do so.

They need to say "I'm sorry" and it needs to be a true repentance and a heart attitude, and they also need to know that they are forgiven and are loved.

Like you said, if our Lord does it, how can we not?

I will say, as they got older, I had my moments of wanting to harp on the same issues as they kept popping up, lol!

Lynniepoo86 said...

Thank you so much for your input! I am a yeller myself, and have also been praying that God help me in this. My husband has a stern voice and doesn't have to raise his voice to get his point across to our son. I sometimes feel like my son just feels like he can get away with any and everything with me. I do have to say though, he is a perfect angel when in public, it's just when we are in the privacy of our own home he decides to be impossible.

Renata said...

Great advice - we have the "naughty chair" & it can be any chair anywhere (if we're out).

Carla said...

We do the same things that you do. Unfortunately I can be a yeller I really have to watch myself on this.
I am allot better then I have been in the past.
Another book I recommend is love and logic. I read it for older kids and teenagers. I think it is a great system. I did read it the book for the young kids and I did think allot of it was started way to young. I like kids to be able to understand when I start doing something.

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